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Rontards plan to hijack the National Convention…

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Filed under: Fraud, Hypocrites, Ron Paul, Shenanigans, The real revolution, Theives — RINO_Hunter @ 8:45 am
April 29th, 2008 by RINO_Hunter

Yes, the Rontards are still at it.

As I went to my Senatorial Convention this spring, I had an eerie feeling when I noticed all of the Rontard bumper stickers that were there in attendance, and how the turn out was in no way a reflection of the actual number of votes cast for Ron Paul in the county. I have to give it to them, they are organized. So, for the past several months now, I have been monitoring some of the communication that is coming out of the Ron Paul camp looking for this very thing.

As far away as a year ago, I began hearing rumors that the poor showing in the polls, and at the ballot box was going to force the hand of the Ron Paul camp to try and seize control of the National Convention by flooding it with Ron Paul supporters, much in the same way they flooded every single web poll, or IM poll during the debates. Not satisfied with Democracy in action, the Rontards would instead take matters into their own hands. The plan would be to take over the Precinct meetings to elect the Delegates for the Senatorial Conventions and in turn affect the Delegate selection all the way up to the National Convention. For this type of “Rube Goldberg machine” to actually happen, every single domino would have to fall the right way.

While I don’t think it is plausible, there will be some serious repercussions if were to actually it happen. Personally, I already feel disenfranchised at the way our current candidate was pre-selected for us before we even got the chance to vote in Texas. The prospect of having to support McCain this election season does not necessarily excite me, but a brokered Ron Paul selection will surely will make matters far worse, and will sink the Republican Party for this election cycle for sure. You think Republicans are angry and want to sit this one out now, just wait until until a brokered convention, and Ron Paul steals the nomination. That will most certainly cause a real revolution.

HOW TO GET RON PAUL NOMINATED - ANYWAY
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*This is not the time to back off and just haggle about resolutions and platforms at state and national conventions. It’s time to FIGHT!*
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*by Alex Wallenwein*
(Conservative)
Friday, April 18, 2008

http://www.nolanchart.com/article3486.html
A Strategy

Some Meetups are already giving up hope, but there is a way for us to get Ron Paul the nomination, and it is absolutely doable.

In a nutshell: If enough delegations *sit out the first and second vote*, McCain won’t get his required majority, and the national convention will become a brokered one-which means anything goes.

There are two main hurdles to accomplishing this:

1. To be even*presented* for nomination, Ron must be able to “demonstrate the support” of a majority of the delegates from at least five states.
2. Getting enough state delegations to sit out the first two votes won’t be easy but it is totally within the realm of the possible!.

What depresses so many delegates is that in order to even be selected as delegates to go to the National Convention, they are required by state party rules to sign a pledge that they will “support” John McCain. That is not the end of the story, however.

The only consequence of that is that a delegate’s vote for anyone other than McCain will simply not be counted.

*That’s all!*

There are no legal ramifications for breaking that pledge. There are only possible ethical concerns. These ethical concerns, however, are completely

swept aside by the possibility of simply NOT VOTING the first time around.The RNC’s party rules expressly contemplate and acknowledge that State Delegations may choose to sit out a vote. Rule 37c states:

(c) In balloting, *if any delegation shall pass when its name is called*, then at the conclusion of the roll call all delegations which passed shall be called in the order herein before established. *No delegation shall be allowed to change its vote until all delegations which passed shall have been given a second opportunity to vote*.

That means (a) it’s ok to abstain from voting, and (b) the only consequence is that the passing delegation(s) must be given another chance to vote before any other delegations are released from their pledges.

*The Big Challenge:*

The big hurdle to climb is the requirement of paragraph (b) of Rule 40, which states that in order to even be presented for nomination, a candidate must be able to demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates of at least five states. Here is the rule:

(b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall*demonstrate the support* of a majority of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination.

The rule does not define what precise “demonstration of support” is required. In other words, it is not necessary that Ron Paul must have won a majority of the “beauty contest” (popular primary) vote in five states in order to be entitled to all their delegates.

What is a demonstration of support?

A candidate can ask that the delegations of five states where he believes he has enough support be polled by roll call so as to enable him to demonstrate that he has the support of a majority of delegates then and there at the National Convention.

That means we have to get to work on the delegates of each state after the state conventions are over.

Many Republicans hate McCain, or at least dislike him.

There is a huge arsenal of issues on which McCain has exposed himself as a sell-out to conservative Republicans: national sovereignty, free speech (McCain/Feingold), amnesty, guns, abortion you name it, he has voted against conservative values on these.

There is also evidence he “sang” in Vietnam, costing untold numbers of his fellow POWs their lives.

It should not be too difficult to convince conservative delegates not to vote for him with that evidence especially in light of the fact that the party rules explicitly contemplate the “passing” of votes by state delegations!

*The Strategy:*

The strategy therefore must be to get as many Ron Paul delegates selected to represent their states at the National Convention.

That means our delegates need to stay low- key.

Resolutions are a dead giveaway, especially when they are fought over things like opposition to the war, or abolishing the Federal Reserve and the IRS, all signature issues of Ron Paul.

So, the best plan is to shut up, move along, do what you have to do to get selected, sign the pledge to “support” McCain (it doesn’t say you promise not to abstain!) and just get in short of outright lying, of course.

If there are any ethical concerns about this supposed “stealth tactic”, think about what ethical concerns you may have if you allow McCain to become president by your inaction.

Old guard Republicans may complain about supposed “stealth” or deception-but what is it their preferred candidates do when they swear in their oaths of office to “support and defend” the Constitution and then do the opposite?

What is more unethical?

What is more damaging to the country?

What is more destructive of the very foundation of our government and our way of life?

My question is: As long as there is even a sliver of a chance to get Ron Paul the GOP nomination why give up??

*Why resign yourself to debating endlessly about the fine points of endless party resolutions and platforms knowing they are routinely ignored, anyway?*

These party honchos and their favorite sell-out candidates constantly ignore and violate even our Constitution! What makes you think they won’t utterly ignore whatever provisions we manage to get into the national party platform?

Is that worth the price of being spotted and “marked for death” by the party honchos at the state conventions? I don’t think so.Not when you consider what’s really at stake.

So, please, please, *please *don’t give up! Ron Paul still has plenty of fight left in him at his advanced age. Why shouldn’t we?

Let’s fight for what’s *important* (Ron Paul *winning*) - not for what routinely gets ignored!

Alex Wallenwein

So, in a word, rules are meant to be broken. After all, Rontards are sooo much smarter than the rest of us. They are entitled to have Ron Paul as the Republican nominee. So what, you loose a little integrity. No big deal, they’re just cheating the entire Democratic process and disenfranchising the whole of the Republican body that did not even consider Ron Paul. You tell me, what is right about a Candidate who may have only gotten 5% (and I’m being very generous here) of the popular vote walking away with the nomination. This is, in and of itself, exactly the problem we have in Washington. There is no integrity around, anywhere, and this even includes you Rontards. It’s is time we stand up for our principles, stand up for integrity, and expose the liars, the cheats, and the disingenuous.

The writer then ends the message with the following quote

Posterity–you will never know how much it has cost my generation to
preserve your freedom.
I hope you will make good use of it.

John Quincy Adams

Now I thought that Rontards were well versed in history. Two things with this quote trouble me. First of all, I know it is easy to confuse the two, but John Adams is the actual source of this quote, not John Quincy Adams. The quote actually comes from correspondence between John Adams and Thomas Jefferson in the twilight years of their lives. These letters have been the subject of several books, and the current mini-series appearing on HBO. Besides the fact that the quote is attributed to the wrong Adams, the Adams that the writer chose to hold up was John Quincy Adams author of the Tariff of 1828, also known as the Tariff of Abomination. It intrigues me that he would choose someone who was such a supporter of big government .

On this note, I will leave you with the following quotes from John Adams:

“There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty.”

“Statesmen, my dear Sir, may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure than they have it now, They may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting Liberty. They will only exchange Tyrants and Tyrannies.”

“The science of government it is my duty to study, more than all other sciences; the arts of legislation and administration and negotiation ought to take the place of, indeed exclude, in a manner, all other arts. I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. Our sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history and naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry and porcelain.”

“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”

“What do we mean by the American Revolution? Do we mean the American war? The Revolution was effected before the war commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations… This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution.”

UPDATED - RINO_Hunter

Michelle Malkin confirms the movement has started, read about it at her blog Michelle Malkin

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The truth eludes Ron Paul…

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Filed under: Anti-American, Anti-Defense, Anti-Israel, Anti-Semite, Anti-war, Blame America, Earmarks & Pork, Family Values, Fraud, Ron Paul, Security, The real revolution — RINO_Hunter @ 10:02 am
February 27th, 2008 by RINO_Hunter

worm.jpgRon Paul has been having a bit of trouble lately. So much in fact, he has had to curb his Presidential bid in order to concentrate his efforts on “Plan B” (and you Rontards can shut up already, I heard him say it) his Congressional seat, which by the way should enthuse anyone whom he is supposed to represent. So as a result, I get to hear his commercials, and there’s a lot of them, every day. Commercials that are full of stale 10 year old data or quotes, obfuscations, and down right lies.

Congressional Quarterly names Ron Paul one the 50 most effective legislators - first this is an 8 year old article that frankly is quite stale, and second the article is not a list of “effective legislators”. That list does not exist.

He is trying to tie himself to the Reagan Revolution by airing a sound byte that is at least 10 years old where Reagan states “We need to keep Ron Paul”. Again stale, this is the same Ronald Reagan that Ron Paul blames for creating the OBL, and Sadam Hussein problem. So Ron Paul expects that he can rail against Ronald Reagan’s foreign policy on one hand, and ride his coat tails on the other.

He claims he is the tax payers best friend, well that’s a stretch coming from the Pork King of Lake Jackson. 400 million in one year for trivial projects that Ron Paul makes the earmarks for, and then votes down knowing his buddies in Congress will pass the measure.

He claims he is tough on defense. Meanwhile, he votes down every defense appropriation, want to cut military spending by 80%, do away with the CIA and the Air Force, and reduce our forces to ballistic submarines. Hmmm, that’s pretty tough allright.

He claims he is pro-family and pro-life, while he votes down measures to prohibit and increase penalties for transporting minors across State lines in order to get around home State abortion regulations.

The truth even eludes Ron Paul when it comes to his challenger. He ignores the fact that his seat is in serious jeopardy, refuses to debate or even have a forum. But, Ron Paul certainly cried foul when Fox did not invite him to the Florida debate.

As usual, Ron Paul says one thing, and does the complete opposite.

Texans have a choice. I invite you to check out Chris Peden’s site at chrispeden.org to get the facts about the 14th district.

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Voting from the rooftops…

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Filed under: The real revolution — RINO_Hunter @ 9:26 am
February 6th, 2008 by RINO_Hunter

jackass.jpgThe super Tuesday losses have turned a faction of the rontards to look to violence as a means to their ends. Check out this thread on the Ron Paul Forum.

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